dota属于什么水平

Ⅰ 中国的dota有多厉害（以前和现在）

中国服dota才是真dota吗？

So im really Only here to show appreciation to any of you Chinese redditors. I've recently moved to China, and playing on Chinese servers is a blessing. Random draft is amazing! Good on you guys, for keeping it alive!

我来这里发帖是为了表示对中国Redditors的感谢。我最近刚搬到中国，在中国服务器玩的太开心了。随机征召太棒了!感谢你们，让这个模式得以延续!

I'm 4.5k and when I first started playing in China I lost a lot, I found myself not being on the same level as people here. They had incredible team play. They always tp counter gank, Always work together to secure objectives and very few players play selfish. In my last three months of Dota, I can count with my fingers how many griefers I encountered. And every time I report someone action is always taken.

我的天梯分是4500分，当我刚开始在中国玩的时候，我经常输，我发现自己和这里的人不在一个级别。他们有不可思议的团队合作。他们总是在有人被Gank的时候TP支援，总是一起合作来确保完成目标，很少有玩家过于自私。过去3个月玩DOTA，我碰到的喷子一只手都能数过来。每次我举报的人也总是会被制裁。

I barely speak Chinese, I have basic understanding though and can figure out what the team is doing, and it really hasn't slowed my team down the slightest. Regardless of language barriers, dota is still dota, and people in the same mmr usually have similar instincts.

我几乎不会说中文，我有基本的了解，可以弄清楚团队在做什么，所以不会太拖团队后腿。无论语言沟通如何困难，dota仍然是dota，而同一个mmr级别的玩家通常有类似的本能。

The greatest thing about games here Is, nobody flames, nobody blames you for making a mistake and rarely do teams harm each other by stealing farm or fighting over courier. So you don't feel under pressure, and best of all you get this feeling, a very special feel that you have 4 allies. It's like back in the US id always feel like I'm about to join a game with 9 enimes,4 of which who have a shared goal with me so we work together only because we want that +25. However over here in China I feel like these guys are actually my allies, people you can trust and even fall in love with for that 40 minute game.

这里玩DOTA最伟大的事情是，没有人互喷，没有人责备你犯错误，很少有人通过抢兵线或者抢信使来伤害团队。所以你没有压力，最重要的是你有这种感觉，一种非常特别的感觉，你有4个盟友。在美国玩的时候,我总是觉得我要加入一个有9个敌人的游戏局，其中4个与我有一个共同目标，所以我们合作只是因为我们想要那+25。然而，在中国，我觉得这些家伙真的是我的盟友，他们可以信任，我甚至爱上了这40分钟的比赛。

I know this is a blog post, but truly thank you very much China, for allowing me to experience Dota in an incredible way. I hope we can learn from them. Let's start with the man in the mirror.我知道这只是一篇博客文章，但真的非常感谢中国，让我以难以置信的方式体验Dota。我希望我们(外国玩家)能以人为镜。

评论翻

JPK95_452指标28天前

I have had this feeling too on EUW since i started muting all my 4 teammates right at the start.

我也有这种感觉。在欧服，一开局我就要闭麦听歌一打五了

hon_uninstalled 3指标28天前

If you get 5 cores in your team, perhaps... just perhaps you're part of the problem also?

如果你们家阵容是5大哥。可能啊，我是说可能啊，你也有问题

shushker 9指标28天前

What is your MMR? I haven't seen a 5 core lineup in an insanely long time since I passed like 3.5K

你天梯多少分？我3500以后没再见过5大哥阵容

ashjayanc 4指标28天前

To be fair, there are occassions CH plays in EUW or when I accidentally queued Russia and damn, i always win whenever i see chinese characters on my teammates..(or lose if against them)

有一句说一句，我在欧服玩或者不小心排到了俄罗斯服，我发现队友是用汉字的，我一般就赢了（反之亦然）

machucogp 242指标28天前

looks like it's a... perfect world

这简直是。。。完美世界（一语双关，dota2是完美世界代理的）

h3llz 66指标28天前

Me, as a foreigner, living in China can verify this. OP is damn right ,hardly anyone flames, no one resumes the games if anyone needs a pause break, game quality is top notch(4.2k here), and RD mode feels so much fun and balanced than AP.

我，作为生活在中国的老外，可以证明楼主说的。楼主说的太**对了，在哪里几乎很少有喷子，没有开始游戏狂魔（有人有事暂停了游戏，对面人还没回来就有人开始游戏）。在那里，是dota2游戏素质和质量顶级体验（天梯4200），随机征召比全英雄选择更加好玩平衡

feizy 223指标28天前

we all know 9k na =3k cn

我们都懂哈，这里9000分=中国3000分（这是个梗）

50cent964428指标28天前

Trust me there is no server more cancerous than SEA. If u really want to know how it is to play against cancerous team mates and enemies plz queue on SEA you wont regret.

相信我没有比东南亚更毒瘤的服务器了，如果你真要想知道这群b有多毒瘤，请来东南亚服务器，你不会失望哦

drunkowl121指标28天前

I'm from SEA and e to some region selection error I was sent to China East, I freaked out when everyone was chatting in chinese but then I told them I'm not from there, they changed to english (including the thrash talk lol), they were really fun to play with and less flaming with I'm used to, if not for the high ping I prefer playing there

我是东南亚服的，因为有些时候服务器选择错误我被排到了国服东区，我一听全是中文聊天我就懵逼了，但当我告诉他们我不是那里人的时候他们就全改英文了（包括脏话，哈哈）。跟他们玩很开心，而且很少像我们那里那样被喷，如果不是高ping我宁愿在那里玩

ehalf 20指标28天前

I don't play on Chinese server but I watch a lot of Chinese streams. Indeed dota in Chinese server is a different game. Mostly, how the game is played and the player mentality is far more superior than at least US pubs( which I'm playing on)I'm ***ing surprised that in 4K-5k games in China, people actually rarely flame. The supports always do their jobs and carry always play with the whole team instead of try to be a jerk "hero". And normally they don't give up games which compare to US server situation, at least 1/2 of games some asshole will either feed or intentionally ruin the game e to very small setbacks, either the asshole is on your team or on the other side.The whole Chinese server is like you play this game to win, and the only way to win the game is play as a team no matter how disgusting your teammates are. I feel like Chinese player has much high tolerance on those we called cancer players and their cancer players are far more less than ours at percentage. I have to get to average mmr above 5.2k in US to see some Chinese level dota games and I feel like there is still high chance some mentally weak kids gonna appear and ruin the game. And we still never have those kind of massive tps in Chinese pub games when pushing tower. I seriously have no idea why Chinese pub can be so professional even at 4K game level.

我不玩国服，但我看了好多国服直播。咱们跟他们玩的都不是一个游戏。人家玩家的玩法和心态比我们强多了（就我接触的来说）当我看过国服之后我整个人都**惊了，45千分的天梯他们居然很少互喷。辅助兢兢业业买鸡买眼，没人要做团队毒瘤。而且他们比美服更不容易放弃。在我们这里，至少有一半的游戏是因为一些silly b的小挫折而送人头故意破坏游戏整个中国的服务器就像你玩这个游戏一样，赢得比赛的唯一方法就是扮演一个团队，无论你的队友多么恶心。我觉得中国人对所谓毒瘤的耐受度很高，他们毒瘤的比例也远远低于我们的百分比。在美国，我必须达到5.2k以上的平均水平，得到中国级的dota游戏体验，就算这样熊孩子会出现并毁掉游戏的机会还是很高的。国服推塔时，也没什么蠢逼。我真的不知道为什么中国4000分就能这么专业。

kchuyamewtwo 17指标28天前

Just played my first game in Chinese servers a few hours agoIncredible pub experience, no spam of gg noob or bobo, no all chat blaming and feeding all gameTeamplay oriented, TP counterganks and responses from early to midgame, barely anyone is overextendingI was a support veno and I was just creepblocking for mid dire and they thought I was going mid so they went sidelanes and noone flamed me for "stealing mid or taking their lane"the only down side I have is around 0.5 delay, but the game quality makes up for it. and the chinese language which I might miss their calls or what they wanna do with the game but chatwheel is used a lot and is enough.

几小时前我开始了我的国服之旅难以置信的游戏体验，没有垃圾信息gg彩笔什么的，没有全屏嘲讽，没有送翻全场注重团队精神，游戏前中期有tp支援，没人过度膨胀我玩的辅助剧毒，我帮中路卡兵，他们以为我要走中就让线了，没人喷我抢中，让我去他们那条线唯一缺点是0.5的丢包，但游戏的质量弥补了这些。因为他们用的是中文，我可能会错过他们给的讯息或他们想要做的事情，但聊天轮盘就行了

madisonmay 7指标28天前

I play in USE but somehow got placed in a match on a China server recently. I don't speak a word of Chinese, so I expected the game to be miserable and to get flamed for not speaking mandarin (like USE does when a player doesn't a speak English). To the contrary, my team thought it was hilarious that I had gotten placed on a Chinese server, and went to a huge amount of effort to make sure I knew what was going on. They used chat wheel so things were auto translated, and one person acted as a translator so I knew what was happening in voice chat. It was honestly a very enjoyable game with some quality team play.5/7 would get placed on Chinese server game again.

我在美服玩，但有一天我不知道问什么进了国服。一句中文也不会啊，我想着这局完蛋了，他们肯定怒喷我因为我不会中文（就像在美国不说英文一样）。相反的是，他们觉得我能来国服这事很好笑，很努力的帮我了解局面。他们用聊天轮交流，还有一个人帮我翻译大家在说什么。老实说，这是一次非常愉快的游戏，优秀的团队合作。5/7我将在来国服

hugeheadliang 6指标28天前

People do flame each other in Chinese server, but those flamers usually stay in the game and still contribute to the game, rather than intentionally feed

国服他们也互喷，但他们喷都是喷游戏里的，而且有助于游戏，而不是瞎送

BlackThatch 2指标27天前

Then we ***ing wonder why Valve gives no shit about Western scene and focuses on China. We ***ing ruined this game for ourselves.

我就**奇怪v社为什么不关心我们西方的场景而去关心中国。原来是**我们自己毁了这个游戏

gladiator003 指标28天前

china numba wanchina

南波湾

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Ⅱ 中国DOTA2战队在老外眼里有多强

不管哪一年哪个中国队最强，哪个外国队最强，中国在DOTA2世界里，至少TI上，永远是一超多强里的那个超，CN赛区永远超越世界所有其他分区一档的存在。

每年，除了冠军就是亚军，中国dota，代表的就是世界dota的顶尖水平。

虽然不是当初的所向披靡十连冠，但依旧是令人闻风色变的水平。能为之一战的寥寥无几。