dota屬於什麼水平

Ⅰ 中國的dota有多厲害（以前和現在）

中國服dota才是真dota嗎？

So im really Only here to show appreciation to any of you Chinese redditors. I've recently moved to China, and playing on Chinese servers is a blessing. Random draft is amazing! Good on you guys, for keeping it alive!

我來這里發帖是為了表示對中國Redditors的感謝。我最近剛搬到中國，在中國伺服器玩的太開心了。隨機徵召太棒了!感謝你們，讓這個模式得以延續!

I'm 4.5k and when I first started playing in China I lost a lot, I found myself not being on the same level as people here. They had incredible team play. They always tp counter gank, Always work together to secure objectives and very few players play selfish. In my last three months of Dota, I can count with my fingers how many griefers I encountered. And every time I report someone action is always taken.

我的天梯分是4500分，當我剛開始在中國玩的時候，我經常輸，我發現自己和這里的人不在一個級別。他們有不可思議的團隊合作。他們總是在有人被Gank的時候TP支援，總是一起合作來確保完成目標，很少有玩家過於自私。過去3個月玩DOTA，我碰到的噴子一隻手都能數過來。每次我舉報的人也總是會被制裁。

I barely speak Chinese, I have basic understanding though and can figure out what the team is doing, and it really hasn't slowed my team down the slightest. Regardless of language barriers, dota is still dota, and people in the same mmr usually have similar instincts.

我幾乎不會說中文，我有基本的了解，可以弄清楚團隊在做什麼，所以不會太拖團隊後腿。無論語言溝通如何困難，dota仍然是dota，而同一個mmr級別的玩家通常有類似的本能。

The greatest thing about games here Is, nobody flames, nobody blames you for making a mistake and rarely do teams harm each other by stealing farm or fighting over courier. So you don't feel under pressure, and best of all you get this feeling, a very special feel that you have 4 allies. It's like back in the US id always feel like I'm about to join a game with 9 enimes,4 of which who have a shared goal with me so we work together only because we want that +25. However over here in China I feel like these guys are actually my allies, people you can trust and even fall in love with for that 40 minute game.

這里玩DOTA最偉大的事情是，沒有人互噴，沒有人責備你犯錯誤，很少有人通過搶兵線或者搶信使來傷害團隊。所以你沒有壓力，最重要的是你有這種感覺，一種非常特別的感覺，你有4個盟友。在美國玩的時候,我總是覺得我要加入一個有9個敵人的游戲局，其中4個與我有一個共同目標，所以我們合作只是因為我們想要那+25。然而，在中國，我覺得這些傢伙真的是我的盟友，他們可以信任，我甚至愛上了這40分鍾的比賽。

I know this is a blog post, but truly thank you very much China, for allowing me to experience Dota in an incredible way. I hope we can learn from them. Let's start with the man in the mirror.我知道這只是一篇博客文章，但真的非常感謝中國，讓我以難以置信的方式體驗Dota。我希望我們(外國玩家)能以人為鏡。

評論翻

JPK95_452指標28天前

I have had this feeling too on EUW since i started muting all my 4 teammates right at the start.

我也有這種感覺。在歐服，一開局我就要閉麥聽歌一打五了

hon_uninstalled 3指標28天前

If you get 5 cores in your team, perhaps... just perhaps you're part of the problem also?

如果你們家陣容是5大哥。可能啊，我是說可能啊，你也有問題

shushker 9指標28天前

What is your MMR? I haven't seen a 5 core lineup in an insanely long time since I passed like 3.5K

你天梯多少分？我3500以後沒再見過5大哥陣容

ashjayanc 4指標28天前

To be fair, there are occassions CH plays in EUW or when I accidentally queued Russia and damn, i always win whenever i see chinese characters on my teammates..(or lose if against them)

有一句說一句，我在歐服玩或者不小心排到了俄羅斯服，我發現隊友是用漢字的，我一般就贏了（反之亦然）

machucogp 242指標28天前

looks like it's a... perfect world

這簡直是。。。完美世界（一語雙關，dota2是完美世界代理的）

h3llz 66指標28天前

Me, as a foreigner, living in China can verify this. OP is damn right ,hardly anyone flames, no one resumes the games if anyone needs a pause break, game quality is top notch(4.2k here), and RD mode feels so much fun and balanced than AP.

我，作為生活在中國的老外，可以證明樓主說的。樓主說的太**對了，在哪裡幾乎很少有噴子，沒有開始游戲狂魔（有人有事暫停了游戲，對面人還沒回來就有人開始游戲）。在那裡，是dota2游戲素質和質量頂級體驗（天梯4200），隨機徵召比全英雄選擇更加好玩平衡

feizy 223指標28天前

we all know 9k na =3k cn

我們都懂哈，這里9000分=中國3000分（這是個梗）

50cent964428指標28天前

Trust me there is no server more cancerous than SEA. If u really want to know how it is to play against cancerous team mates and enemies plz queue on SEA you wont regret.

相信我沒有比東南亞更毒瘤的伺服器了，如果你真要想知道這群b有多毒瘤，請來東南亞伺服器，你不會失望哦

drunkowl121指標28天前

I'm from SEA and e to some region selection error I was sent to China East, I freaked out when everyone was chatting in chinese but then I told them I'm not from there, they changed to english (including the thrash talk lol), they were really fun to play with and less flaming with I'm used to, if not for the high ping I prefer playing there

我是東南亞服的，因為有些時候伺服器選擇錯誤我被排到了國服東區，我一聽全是中文聊天我就懵逼了，但當我告訴他們我不是那裡人的時候他們就全改英文了（包括臟話，哈哈）。跟他們玩很開心，而且很少像我們那裡那樣被噴，如果不是高ping我寧願在那裡玩

ehalf 20指標28天前

I don't play on Chinese server but I watch a lot of Chinese streams. Indeed dota in Chinese server is a different game. Mostly, how the game is played and the player mentality is far more superior than at least US pubs( which I'm playing on)I'm ***ing surprised that in 4K-5k games in China, people actually rarely flame. The supports always do their jobs and carry always play with the whole team instead of try to be a jerk "hero". And normally they don't give up games which compare to US server situation, at least 1/2 of games some asshole will either feed or intentionally ruin the game e to very small setbacks, either the asshole is on your team or on the other side.The whole Chinese server is like you play this game to win, and the only way to win the game is play as a team no matter how disgusting your teammates are. I feel like Chinese player has much high tolerance on those we called cancer players and their cancer players are far more less than ours at percentage. I have to get to average mmr above 5.2k in US to see some Chinese level dota games and I feel like there is still high chance some mentally weak kids gonna appear and ruin the game. And we still never have those kind of massive tps in Chinese pub games when pushing tower. I seriously have no idea why Chinese pub can be so professional even at 4K game level.

我不玩國服，但我看了好多國服直播。咱們跟他們玩的都不是一個游戲。人家玩家的玩法和心態比我們強多了（就我接觸的來說）當我看過國服之後我整個人都**驚了，45千分的天梯他們居然很少互噴。輔助兢兢業業買雞買眼，沒人要做團隊毒瘤。而且他們比美服更不容易放棄。在我們這里，至少有一半的游戲是因為一些silly b的小挫折而送人頭故意破壞游戲整個中國的伺服器就像你玩這個游戲一樣，贏得比賽的唯一方法就是扮演一個團隊，無論你的隊友多麼惡心。我覺得中國人對所謂毒瘤的耐受度很高，他們毒瘤的比例也遠遠低於我們的百分比。在美國，我必須達到5.2k以上的平均水平，得到中國級的dota游戲體驗，就算這樣熊孩子會出現並毀掉游戲的機會還是很高的。國服推塔時，也沒什麼蠢逼。我真的不知道為什麼中國4000分就能這么專業。

kchuyamewtwo 17指標28天前

Just played my first game in Chinese servers a few hours agoIncredible pub experience, no spam of gg noob or bobo, no all chat blaming and feeding all gameTeamplay oriented, TP counterganks and responses from early to midgame, barely anyone is overextendingI was a support veno and I was just creepblocking for mid dire and they thought I was going mid so they went sidelanes and noone flamed me for "stealing mid or taking their lane"the only down side I have is around 0.5 delay, but the game quality makes up for it. and the chinese language which I might miss their calls or what they wanna do with the game but chatwheel is used a lot and is enough.

幾小時前我開始了我的國服之旅難以置信的游戲體驗，沒有垃圾信息gg彩筆什麼的，沒有全屏嘲諷，沒有送翻全場注重團隊精神，游戲前中期有tp支援，沒人過度膨脹我玩的輔助劇毒，我幫中路卡兵，他們以為我要走中就讓線了，沒人噴我搶中，讓我去他們那條線唯一缺點是0.5的丟包，但游戲的質量彌補了這些。因為他們用的是中文，我可能會錯過他們給的訊息或他們想要做的事情，但聊天輪盤就行了

madisonmay 7指標28天前

I play in USE but somehow got placed in a match on a China server recently. I don't speak a word of Chinese, so I expected the game to be miserable and to get flamed for not speaking mandarin (like USE does when a player doesn't a speak English). To the contrary, my team thought it was hilarious that I had gotten placed on a Chinese server, and went to a huge amount of effort to make sure I knew what was going on. They used chat wheel so things were auto translated, and one person acted as a translator so I knew what was happening in voice chat. It was honestly a very enjoyable game with some quality team play.5/7 would get placed on Chinese server game again.

我在美服玩，但有一天我不知道問什麼進了國服。一句中文也不會啊，我想著這局完蛋了，他們肯定怒噴我因為我不會中文（就像在美國不說英文一樣）。相反的是，他們覺得我能來國服這事很好笑，很努力的幫我了解局面。他們用聊天輪交流，還有一個人幫我翻譯大家在說什麼。老實說，這是一次非常愉快的游戲，優秀的團隊合作。5/7我將在來國服

hugeheadliang 6指標28天前

People do flame each other in Chinese server, but those flamers usually stay in the game and still contribute to the game, rather than intentionally feed

國服他們也互噴，但他們噴都是噴游戲里的，而且有助於游戲，而不是瞎送

BlackThatch 2指標27天前

Then we ***ing wonder why Valve gives no shit about Western scene and focuses on China. We ***ing ruined this game for ourselves.

我就**奇怪v社為什麼不關心我們西方的場景而去關心中國。原來是**我們自己毀了這個游戲

gladiator003 指標28天前

china numba wanchina

南波灣

來源：原創翻譯：龍騰網http://www.ltaaa.com翻譯：popcredo

Ⅱ 中國DOTA2戰隊在老外眼裡有多強

不管哪一年哪個中國隊最強，哪個外國隊最強，中國在DOTA2世界裡，至少TI上，永遠是一超多強里的那個超，CN賽區永遠超越世界所有其他分區一檔的存在。

每年，除了冠軍就是亞軍，中國dota，代表的就是世界dota的頂尖水平。

雖然不是當初的所向披靡十連冠，但依舊是令人聞風色變的水平。能為之一戰的寥寥無幾。